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Re: Ferrari Power Unit Hardware & Software
Posted: 03 Oct 2023, 17:20
by AR3-GP
ryaan2904 wrote: ↑03 Oct 2023, 14:23
Is it the 2021 engine or the 2023 engine? The earlier twitter post said 2021 engine.
I heard that it was required for all teams to show their '23 engine.
Re: Ferrari Power Unit Hardware & Software
Posted: 03 Oct 2023, 21:22
by lio007
AR3-GP wrote: ↑03 Oct 2023, 17:20
ryaan2904 wrote: ↑03 Oct 2023, 14:23
Is it the 2021 engine or the 2023 engine? The earlier twitter post said 2021 engine.
I heard that it was required for all teams to show their '23 engine.
It seems they can show PU's from 2021. At least Honda presented their RA6
21H in Suzuka.
Re: Ferrari Power Unit Hardware & Software
Posted: 10 Oct 2023, 13:56
by Juzh
Engines are frozen in any case. So not much difference in 2023.
Re: Ferrari Power Unit Hardware & Software
Posted: 10 Oct 2023, 19:26
by ryaan2904
lio007 wrote: ↑03 Oct 2023, 21:22
AR3-GP wrote: ↑03 Oct 2023, 17:20
ryaan2904 wrote: ↑03 Oct 2023, 14:23
Is it the 2021 engine or the 2023 engine? The earlier twitter post said 2021 engine.
I heard that it was required for all teams to show their '23 engine.
It seems they can show PU's from 2021. At least Honda presented their RA6
21H in Suzuka.
Yeah. This was their (Ferrari's) 2021 engine. Look at the front of the engine where the plenum pipes would meet the intercooler. They're flat and sharply bend down in the pictures provided. That is not the case in the current (or 22) engine at all, where the pipes continue almost straight for a while and then bend down to meet the round intercooler. (Which is also not shown in the pic).
Re: Ferrari Power Unit Hardware & Software
Posted: 11 Oct 2023, 01:28
by GhostF1
Juzh wrote: ↑10 Oct 2023, 13:56
Engines are frozen in any case. So not much difference in 2023.
They were frozen from 2022 though. So Ferrari's '22 and '23 power unit could look significantly different. And we know they brought huge architectural changes for 2022. So this engine is largely outdated from what they are using currently. Honda's '22 and '23 engine are developments of their all new '21 engine so what they showcased is significantly closer to what's on track.
Only takes a brief google search for Ferrari 2022 power unit for spyshots of the 2022 car in the garage with an obviously different layout.
Re: Ferrari Power Unit Hardware & Software
Posted: 11 Oct 2023, 07:02
by saviour stivala
FERRARI formula one engine configuration builds for a season are allocated a build serial number. Such engines will still carry the same build serial number when revised in season. In 2021 PU-065/6 was used. In 2022 PU-066/7 was used. This year 2023 PU-066/10 is being used. this year's PU has been revised 3 times.
Re: Ferrari Power Unit Hardware & Software
Posted: 11 Oct 2023, 14:31
by Juzh
GhostF1 wrote: ↑11 Oct 2023, 01:28
Juzh wrote: ↑10 Oct 2023, 13:56
Engines are frozen in any case. So not much difference in 2023.
They were frozen from 2022 though. So Ferrari's '22 and '23 power unit could look significantly different. And we know they brought huge architectural changes for 2022. So this engine is largely outdated from what they are using currently. Honda's '22 and '23 engine are developments of their all new '21 engine so what they showcased is significantly closer to what's on track.
Only takes a brief google search for Ferrari 2022 power unit for spyshots of the 2022 car in the garage with an obviously different layout.
I mixed 21 and 22. Indeed 23 engine from the outside should look almost identical to 22?
Re: Ferrari Power Unit Hardware & Software
Posted: 11 Oct 2023, 16:33
by saviour stivala
Yes 2022 and 2023 engines looks identical. Both use the round type front of engine mounted intercooler. 2023 SF-23 PU-066/10, one of the three revisions was on the ERS part of the power unit.