2024 Scuderia Ferrari F1 Team

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Jesus christ lmao

The FIA needs to fire Tombazidis

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Xyz22 wrote:
09 May 2024, 09:58
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Jesus christ lmao

The FIA needs to fire Tombazidis
:lol: WHAT ARE THOSE!?!?

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Xyz22 wrote:
09 May 2024, 09:58
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Jesus christ lmao

The FIA needs to fire Tombazidis
Is this an april fools? It looks terrible!

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I would say those FIA wheel arches are not working... :mrgreen: The spray is still going up, but now it also goes sideways. This looks like an extreme solution to see if there's any chance it might actually work. It doesn't

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On F1-75 we can see the white flaps are back on Ferrari cars with HP logos on them.
And they call it a stall. A STALL!

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Tombazidis lost his mind. Just --- discard the absolutely useless wet tyre which is way too hard to be useful. There is no way they will make these wheel covers work.

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Xyz22 wrote:
09 May 2024, 10:18
https://formu1a.uno/it/ferrari-in-pista ... ferrari-5/

Tombazidis lost his mind. Just --- discard the absolutely useless wet tyre which is way too hard to be useful. There is no way they will make these wheel covers work.
I can not remember where I read it (FormulaUno maybe), but the summary was that the diffuser spray is the problem.
If that is the case, does it not mean wet racing won't happen while the car wake is ejected upward, which is done to improve following...

My first impression of the covers was, they hardly 3D printed those, did they? :lol:

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Sphere3758 wrote:
09 May 2024, 08:34
Sevach wrote:
09 May 2024, 02:21
AR3-GP wrote:
09 May 2024, 01:46


Mclaren raised the bar. Even Red Bull's upgrade are basic compared to them. Every time Mclaren touches their car, the other teams look over their shoulder.
Very true, i thought last year was a one off because the first version of that car was disappointing, but this upgrade was very impressive.
I am yet to be convinced by the McLaren upgrade. I don’t think they were much faster than the Ferrari with 0 upgrades. It was a race where track position was key and having free air had a big advantage.

The well timed safety car left Lando with the best tyres at the end, while both Max and especially Charles were on old tyres which they had to restart.

Carlos was relatively close in lap times to Lando at the end and I don’t even consider him the reference driver for Ferrari to judge performance .

So, the 4 tenths number sounds audacious. They were not 4 tenths slower than Ferrari before, the gap was around a tenth/ 1.5 tenths.
Sainz was faster than Piastri in the half upgraded McLaren, enough to pass, yet the fully upgraded McL in the hands of Norris was faster than Sainz. Only a big upgrade would explain such a performance difference.

As for Sainz not being the "reference driver", might need to re-evaluate that considering he was catching Leclerc at the end. Leclerc was on slightly older tyres, but deg was almost zero.

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Cs98 wrote:
09 May 2024, 10:32
Sphere3758 wrote:
09 May 2024, 08:34
Sevach wrote:
09 May 2024, 02:21

Very true, i thought last year was a one off because the first version of that car was disappointing, but this upgrade was very impressive.
I am yet to be convinced by the McLaren upgrade. I don’t think they were much faster than the Ferrari with 0 upgrades. It was a race where track position was key and having free air had a big advantage.

The well timed safety car left Lando with the best tyres at the end, while both Max and especially Charles were on old tyres which they had to restart.

Carlos was relatively close in lap times to Lando at the end and I don’t even consider him the reference driver for Ferrari to judge performance .

So, the 4 tenths number sounds audacious. They were not 4 tenths slower than Ferrari before, the gap was around a tenth/ 1.5 tenths.
Sainz was faster than Piastri in the half upgraded McLaren, enough to pass, yet the fully upgraded McL in the hands of Norris was faster than Sainz. Only a big upgrade would explain such a performance difference.

As for Sainz not being the "reference driver", might need to re-evaluate that considering he was catching Leclerc at the end. Leclerc was on slightly older tyres, but deg was almost zero.
Even with low deg having 8 laps fresher tyres is a significant advantage.

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Xyz22 wrote:
09 May 2024, 10:34
Cs98 wrote:
09 May 2024, 10:32
Sphere3758 wrote:
09 May 2024, 08:34


I am yet to be convinced by the McLaren upgrade. I don’t think they were much faster than the Ferrari with 0 upgrades. It was a race where track position was key and having free air had a big advantage.

The well timed safety car left Lando with the best tyres at the end, while both Max and especially Charles were on old tyres which they had to restart.

Carlos was relatively close in lap times to Lando at the end and I don’t even consider him the reference driver for Ferrari to judge performance .

So, the 4 tenths number sounds audacious. They were not 4 tenths slower than Ferrari before, the gap was around a tenth/ 1.5 tenths.
Sainz was faster than Piastri in the half upgraded McLaren, enough to pass, yet the fully upgraded McL in the hands of Norris was faster than Sainz. Only a big upgrade would explain such a performance difference.

As for Sainz not being the "reference driver", might need to re-evaluate that considering he was catching Leclerc at the end. Leclerc was on slightly older tyres, but deg was almost zero.
Even with low deg having 8 laps fresher tyres is a significant advantage.
It isn't when the degradation is so low that the fuel burn yields more time gain. The Ferraris were getting progressively faster on both their stints. In any case, we give Leclerc a tenth or two from deg, that's basically what Sainz was gaining on him per lap. So Sainz was an excellent reference here.

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Space-heat wrote:
09 May 2024, 10:24
Xyz22 wrote:
09 May 2024, 10:18
https://formu1a.uno/it/ferrari-in-pista ... ferrari-5/

Tombazidis lost his mind. Just --- discard the absolutely useless wet tyre which is way too hard to be useful. There is no way they will make these wheel covers work.
I can not remember where I read it (FormulaUno maybe), but the summary was that the diffuser spray is the problem.
If that is the case, does it not mean wet racing won't happen while the car wake is ejected upward, which is done to improve following...

My first impression of the covers was, they hardly 3D printed those, did they? :lol:
Any device, ugly or not, that alleviates some of the spray is a good thing in my book. Racing in the wet is never going to be problem free, but if you can get 30-40% of the spray away, that's going to help keep the cars out on track instead of red flagging.

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Sphere3758 wrote:
09 May 2024, 08:34
Sevach wrote:
09 May 2024, 02:21
AR3-GP wrote:
09 May 2024, 01:46


Mclaren raised the bar. Even Red Bull's upgrade are basic compared to them. Every time Mclaren touches their car, the other teams look over their shoulder.
Very true, i thought last year was a one off because the first version of that car was disappointing, but this upgrade was very impressive.
I am yet to be convinced by the McLaren upgrade. I don’t think they were much faster than the Ferrari with 0 upgrades. It was a race where track position was key and having free air had a big advantage.

The well timed safety car left Lando with the best tyres at the end, while both Max and especially Charles were on old tyres which they had to restart.

Carlos was relatively close in lap times to Lando at the end and I don’t even consider him the reference driver for Ferrari to judge performance .

So, the 4 tenths number sounds audacious. They were not 4 tenths slower than Ferrari before, the gap was around a tenth/ 1.5 tenths.
I concur, I have a feeling the McLaren situation is exaggerated.
I think a combination of a sprint weekend, an upgrade, a large slice of luck, RBR and Ferrari messing their races up and Lando winning has gone to some peoples heads.

Ultimately the real gain will only be revealed after a number of race weekend, what we saw in Miami means very little at this stage, they wouldn't be the first team/car to have an above average performance one weekend when the stars align.
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Please let's not post old cars in latest car threads, thanks
And they call it a stall. A STALL!

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Unconvinced by mclaren upgrade? We will see. They were clearly much faster in the hands of norris who was not pushing too hard on the last stint on a hot track, slow corners, configuration that typically goes against the mclaren etc. All this whilst being around 2.5 tenths faster.

.4 sounds about right to me

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Vanja #66 wrote:
09 May 2024, 11:18
Please let's not post old cars in latest car threads, thanks
today’s test with last year's car?

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