Spot on and it's the same on f1tv feed. Stopped watching ages ago, I just turn on for the start of the race and switch off immediately after cool down room. I dont understand who is the target audience really. Like, even us on f1technical who could consider ourselves true diehard fans of the sport can't stand it.Chuckjr wrote: ↑10 Mar 2024, 00:56Crofty and Naomi remain awful and the pre-race show has become unwatchable. A total waste of time. Drivers are now so coached and the hosts so over-produced, it’s basically watching a pre-programmed video game pre-show. Wish folks could speak their mind like the old days to add some authenticity to interviews.
A tale old as time in f1. They really should change the rule already, or reduce tolerance to a minimum. As it stands you can move 20-30 cm and still not get a jump start as long as you remain within your start box. Absurd really.Tvetovnato wrote: ↑10 Mar 2024, 10:17The Lando jump start is however something that just needs to be fixed. It’s clear to everyone’s eye that he did move before the lights went out, but didn’t get any penalty because the computer said no. When it’s clear that it still was a jump start, it will always leave a sour taste when it goes unpunished, and there shouldn’t even be a need to explain to people why he gets off the hook, since it’s so clear to the eye what happened. Imagine if it’s the title deciding race and he wins because of it?
DC is the only clown there. They should also engage Bernie a bit more as her inside experience can be of interest in the racing matters. They need someone like Nico or Jenson to bolster the team with solid racing experience.
Yeah, Bernie and Sam giving a bit more of the techy analysis, or strategy predictions, would be a bit nicer. Certainly more than the 2-3mins they currently get.
Only thing that needs fixing is peoples understanding of what is allowed.Tvetovnato wrote: ↑10 Mar 2024, 10:17The Lando jump start is however something that just needs to be fixed. It’s clear to everyone’s eye that he did move before the lights went out, but didn’t get any penalty because the computer said no. When it’s clear that it still was a jump start, it will always leave a sour taste when it goes unpunished, and there shouldn’t even be a need to explain to people why he gets off the hook, since it’s so clear to the eye what happened. Imagine if it’s the title deciding race and he wins because of it?
I thought the reason why they use the transponder to determine if the drivers have jumpstarted because it would be more reliable & accurate than video. Recent events have shown that not to be the case, so perhaps the rule just needs to be looked at.Oleo wrote: ↑10 Mar 2024, 14:15Only thing that needs fixing is peoples understanding of what is allowed.Tvetovnato wrote: ↑10 Mar 2024, 10:17The Lando jump start is however something that just needs to be fixed. It’s clear to everyone’s eye that he did move before the lights went out, but didn’t get any penalty because the computer said no. When it’s clear that it still was a jump start, it will always leave a sour taste when it goes unpunished, and there shouldn’t even be a need to explain to people why he gets off the hook, since it’s so clear to the eye what happened. Imagine if it’s the title deciding race and he wins because of it?
You are allowed to move with the lights on.
Definately wouldnt want a situation like ice speed skating, where a judge randomly decides person A moved too much but person B did not. No system is perfect, I like the current one, maybe it needs slightly smaller margins.
The rule literally says you aren't allowed to, but also says that the transponder is the judge of whether you did or not.Oleo wrote: ↑10 Mar 2024, 14:15Only thing that needs fixing is peoples understanding of what is allowed.
You are allowed to move with the lights on.
Definately wouldnt want a situation like ice speed skating, where a judge randomly decides person A moved too much but person B did not. No system is perfect, I like the current one, maybe it needs slightly smaller margins.
You won’t be able to fix peoples understanding when it is easy for people to understand what a jump start is, but that no penalty was given for it. Common sense is often lacking in F1 in many areas to the extent that it becomes a parody, and this is one of those things that would be easy to fix by allowing stewards to make a call if the car moves before the lights are out. Here it was a slam dunk. So either fix the transponder or allow common sense judgements to be made…Oleo wrote: ↑10 Mar 2024, 14:15Only thing that needs fixing is peoples understanding of what is allowed.Tvetovnato wrote: ↑10 Mar 2024, 10:17The Lando jump start is however something that just needs to be fixed. It’s clear to everyone’s eye that he did move before the lights went out, but didn’t get any penalty because the computer said no. When it’s clear that it still was a jump start, it will always leave a sour taste when it goes unpunished, and there shouldn’t even be a need to explain to people why he gets off the hook, since it’s so clear to the eye what happened. Imagine if it’s the title deciding race and he wins because of it?
You are allowed to move with the lights on.
Definately wouldnt want a situation like ice speed skating, where a judge randomly decides person A moved too much but person B did not. No system is perfect, I like the current one, maybe it needs slightly smaller margins.
Random start time stops it. The start lights are controlled by a human pressing a button, so you can't exactly predict when the lights will go out - sometimes the FIA guy pushes it fast, sometimes he waits a bit. There's a video here show it.scuderiabrandon wrote: ↑10 Mar 2024, 15:45Excuse my ignorance here, I'm not entirely aware of the rules regarding the starting position but if were to rely on a signal that only trips once you cross a sensor, what stops drivers from stopping 2-3 meters further back in the box and rolling the car in as they wait for the lights to go out, surely there is an advantage to be gained? Hypotheticall speaking ofcourse, in practice it might be much more difficult to achieve